Let me begin this post with a little story. Once upon a time, Dr. Crazy was in her third year of college. She was 20 years old, and she had a baby half-brother who was born about 6 months before. She was at one of the high points (relatively speaking) of post-divorce relations with her father at that time, in large part because she wanted a relationship with her new half-sibling. In a realization that is horrifying to me as my 36-year-old self, my father was just 41 at the time.
So anyway, I was taking a seminar required of all women’s studies minors. By that time I know that I did self-identify as feminist, but I want to make it clear that the “real” reason that I ended up minoring in WS was more that doing so allowed me to take classes across lots of different disciplines, which I thought was neat, but I often felt like the required WS courses were really, really dumb. But so I was sitting on the floor of my father’s living room, and my little brother was on a blanket beside me, while I worked on this (stupid) journal for my women’s studies seminar. (Aside about the journal: it was stupid because it was… well, it was basically this scrap-book in which we were supposed to paste in advertisements that objectified women and all of that sort of crap and then use those as jumping off points from which to reflect on our oppression, which, from my perspective, is the women’s studies classroom’s equivalent of a circle-jerk and isn’t terribly interesting or educational, but I know other people would disagree with me.) But so anyway, I chose that moment to pick a fight with my father.
Now, you might wonder why that was the case. I mean, we were at a high point in our relationship, and we were hanging out together in front of the fire while I did my women’s studies homework. I was a young feminist woman with the support of her father, blah blah blah. Well. I picked the fight because my father had, the weekend before, taken my little brother to his “first auto show.” At that auto show, my father had gotten a playboy centerfold who was draped over a car or something to sign her autograph on a picture of herself in lingerie and to sign the autograph to my 6 month old baby brother. And then my father displayed that picture on my baby brother’s dresser in his bedroom.
Take a moment and think about that. Think about the incongruity of a father who tells his daughter that she can do anything she wants, but then who sees absolutely nothing wrong about socializing his just-out-of-the-womb son to see women as sex objects and would later socialize him to cat-call women when he first began talking, among other really super-duper awesome things. Think about the father who tells his daughter that she can do anything she wants, but who never contributed a dime to her education – any of it – because he expected that ultimately she’d just get married and knocked up anyway and so who really cared? Think about the fact that when his daughter picked this fight with him, he was utterly confused and seriously did not understand why she was upset. And by the end of the argument, he accused me of thinking that I was better than my station (basically) because I was in college but it was time for me to “grow up” and realize that I wasn’t anything special. I also believe there was something about him being the one who brought me into this world and he could take me out. And maybe something about the fact that my shit does in fact stink. Anyway.
This story came to mind as I was thinking about how to write this post, which has been brewing since Tenured Radical began her series on single-sex education for women, and since others have followed up on her posts, because for me it illustrates a few different things. First it illustrates for me the ways in which patriarchy begins at home – not in institutions or in “society” or in advertisements or in tv or movies. I’m not saying anything that revolutionary in saying that – at the very least Virginia Woolf expressed the same basic idea a lot more eloquently in Three Guineas. Second, it demonstrates to me the limits of a certain kind of educational context to protect women or to offer them a safe space within which to think and to learn. My WS seminar was a class of only women. We sat in a circle. We did not examine our vaginas with hand mirrors, but we did discuss the practice. At the end of the day, that seminar and the things I learned in it were in conflict with the expectations of my family – expectations not only about women but also about men, and, perhaps most importantly, about me. And I guess I tend to believe that I learned more about how to negotiate my own personal family context and my own life in general in my classes that were not specifically aimed at women but that were “feminist” in their pedagogy. (For the record, I very much support single-sex education for women. I just get sensitive when I feel like other educational contexts are discounted in the service of promoting it, as if those who don’t for whatever reason get a single-sex education are a) not fully actualized women, b) not fully actualized feminists, or c) not fully qualified to talk about women’s education because they are too mystified to understand their own oppression within hetero/patriarchal culture.)
So I want to talk in this post about co-educational environments and about the necessity of feminist classrooms – and by feminist classrooms I do not mean only those classes that instruct students in women’s and gender studies – for students who receive their education in those environments. I want to talk about the necessity of feminist pedagogical practice, and I want to talk about the necessity of including men in feminist classrooms and educating men through feminist pedagogical practice. I want to talk about the fact that some of the students who can most benefit from this are students who are not smart. (I know, it’s like this taboo thing for teachers to talk about, but some of my students are just not smart – objectively. You do not have to be smart to go to college or to get a college degree. These students do their work, and they do enough to pass, but they are not stellar students and they’re not terribly interesting or original or insightful. Some of them don’t even have common sense, so I’m not talking about them lacking in “book smarts” but being very wise in the ways of the world. No, some of them are just not smart. And those students need feminism, too. They aren’t lost causes just because they’re not terribly bright or motivated.) I want to talk about the fact that just as patriarchy begins at home, in really boring ways with really insignificant agents (like my father), so too might feminism. It doesn’t (at least from my perspective) begin with the best and brightest women going out and ruling the world, but rather, it probably begins at home, with really insignificant agents, who will never do anything noteworthy and whose names we’ll never know. I want to talk about the fact that while feminist pedagogy is activist, lived feminism isn’t always “actively” activist, if that makes any sense. One can live as a feminist even if one isn’t out protesting and fighting and raising hell, and one can be a feminist even if one doesn’t fit the stereotype of a feminist identity, and those are messages that I know I really needed to hear when I was coming into my feminism and
I know they are messages to which my students have responded.
But what is a “feminist classroom” or “feminist pedagogy” if that designation isn’t determined by course content?
In many educational settings – definitely co-ed ones but I’d venture to guess in many single-sex ones as well – course content determines which classrooms are “feminist” and which classrooms are not feminist. Now, I think in order to be fair, it is worth acknowledging that course content should drive pedagogical practice. And what many people perceive as the prescribed “feminist pedagogical practice” can appear to contradict the content-driven goals of a course. For example, a commonplace of feminist pedagogical practice might be to have students sit in a circle rather than in rows facing the instructor, a practice which is supposed to dismantle hierarchies, etc. Well. with my particular student population, I’ve found that sitting in a circle often isn’t terribly effective either in terms of teaching my content or in terms of creating a feminist classroom environment because it often silences female students and/or compromises my ability as a woman to run the classroom effectively. So, when I use the term “feminist classroom,” what do I mean? In no particular order, in a feminist classroom:
- All students feel authorized to participate, and they feel encouraged/expected by their professor to do so. In a co-educational environment, that can mean that the professor must ask male students directly not to dominate the discussion, must make an effort to provide different kinds of opportunities for participation than traditional question/answer, must sometimes meet with students individually to foster their engagement in the course. In other words, instructors have a responsibility to go above and beyond their own personal feminism or politics in order to make their classrooms feminist.
- Female instructors must model appropriate strategies for resistance when their authority is challenged on the basis of their sex, whether those challenges come from male students or from female students. One of the things that female students often learn in non-feminist classrooms is that they have to take those sorts of attacks meekly, or that they should ignore them, or that they should modify their speech in order to avoid such attacks.
- Course content – no matter what the course – can reflect attention to issues of sex/gender – and not just in a token sex/gender week – even if, and in some cases especially if, the course is not designated as a “diversity” distribution requirement. Because students – male and female students alike – often don’t see the relevance of feminism in their own daily lives when they are “forced” to take a “diversity” course. Often, it’s those courses that weave in issues of sex and gender as “normal” that are most likely to reach students who in a “diversity” context would have a knee-jerk reaction against them.
- Respect students’ resistance, and respect the reasons for their resistance. Now, this does not mean that one cannot lay ground rules about appropriate ways in which to resist – one can and one must – but casting students out of the conversation because they are homophobic, sexist, misogynist, conservative, naive, closed-minded, or traditional doesn’t create a feminist classroom, nor does it teach those students.
I’m sure that there are more that I could list, but those are the major ones that come immediately to mind, and I’m losing steam as I try to come to some sort of conclusion in this already way-too-long post. I guess my point is this: for me, as a feminist personally and as a person who believes in creating feminist classrooms for all of my students, I feel frustrated by conversations about educating women that leave so many different kinds of women out – that leave the kind of young woman I was out – and that leave men out. I took courses as a student that were single-sex – sometimes by accident and sometimes by design – and while there were some positive effects (class discussion tended to be more conversational and less adversarial), I rarely felt as challenged by those courses, or I felt as if I and my peers were “bashing” men or “male” points of view (whatever those are). I have also taught classes that were single-sex, or almost entirely single-sex, and as a teacher I have appreciated those classes because they were less work for me in terms of managing the course, less work in attending to making sure all students spoke and less work in creating conversation and stopping certain kinds of dominating, but I also have found myself irritated by needing to get students back on track toward the content of the course instead of rambling on about their inchoate and unrelated-to-course-content feelings and personal lives, which they somehow felt everyone was obligated to listen to because we were a room full of women.
Most of my students are never going to go on to do great things. Most will work in boring office jobs, will get married, will have kids, will live no further than a half-hour from where they grew up. Most of my students don’t want to change the world. Most of my students don’t want to examine either their privilege or their oppression. Or at the very least, that is where they start out. That is where I started out. But even with all that, I feel an obligation to create a feminist space for them. Because, at least for me, feminism is about fostering greater equality and understanding in one’s everyday life. Feminism is about learning how to stand up for yourself without dominating or belittling other people. Feminism is about recognizing difference while at the same time finding common ground. And so for me, if it’s that, we’ve got to think about how we can make those things happen at institutions like mine, with student populations like mine. We can’t just feel sorry for those students for being unenlightened and then ignore them like there’s nothing we can do.

I appreciate your contribution to this conversation because I think you’re saying something really important here about the environment I grew up with and teach in.
I’ve been surprised by the level of passion and defensiveness some people feel about their undergraduate experiences, especially at private women’s colleges/universities. I feel so far outside that conversation that I don’t even know how to respond, so I don’t bother. But your response is better than what I’d have hoped to say, so thank you.
Thanks for the pingback to my post. This is much better than my reply.
Yes, yes, yes. I do try and have a feminist class-space (according to your list) and I’m vocally and visually feminist for my students. Which makes the persistence of patriarchal attitude within my department and university even harder. The attitude of my chair – a feminist woman who has taught the WS curriculum for years – re: the sexist remarks and behaviors of one of our dinosaurs. She’s totally passive (or seemingly so) and avoids the required actions – half-way out the early retirement door, she seems to be avoiding conflict/rocking the boat. Which infuriates me – and others.
Thank you for this post. I’m not alone, and having reminders of that helps a lot.
Also thanking you, and happy to learn that, mostly unconsciously, I have been creating a feminist classroom
This could explain a lot about some of my reactions from my more conservative students AND my male colleagues. Hmmm.
Awesome post, Crazy.
This is one reason why the policing of feminism by some feminists drives me nuts: no, Sarah Palin doesn’t stand for what I consider feminist ideals. But I get why some women see her as a feminist icon, and I’m thrilled that some Republican women are claiming feminism for themselves — because it makes it easier to have a conversation about feminism with my students and makes it easier for them to believe that they can be, say, pro-life Christians and still get pissed off about representations of women in the media, or wage disparities; that they can still call themselves or even just enact the role of feminists.
Not every feminist needs to call herself that, and not every feminist needs to be someone whom I like or agree with. There are female construction workers out there who vote Republican and are doing more for feminism than I probably ever will.
I think some of the more general ideas of what a feminist classroom is are important when you start to step across discipline boundaries, too. I think about, but am not sure what it means to have a feminist math classroom (or biology or physics or architecture or…), when the material is far enough afield from feminism that if you’re actually discussing it class, you’re on a hell of a tangent.
And there are things about the way I conduct my classroom that are feminist. I know that for some students, encountering a woman in the role of professor in a mathematics class is challenging. And your first two bullet points apply without much translation. But once you get beyond that… I’m not sure where you end up.
Thank you for this post. It was quite timely for me because I’ve started a reading group about feminist pedagogy and came away very frustrated and feeling like I was a very bad feminist teacher because I dared be a presence in my own classroom and claim authority over my own subject. That seemed to be what the other people in the discussion were saying — don’t be a presence in the classroom, don’t claim too much authority over the subject, don’t interfere with the learning process, let the students teach one another, and so forth, then you will be a good feminist teacher. Maybe we were just speaking in different languages with different frames of reference and I misunderstood what they were saying — which has been known to happen, especially being the odd person out in terms of disciplinary representation.
Anyway, the more I thought about it, I realized that I was so frustrated because of the issue you address here. The other members of the group — all of whom teach writing classes — seemed to be dictating a particular type of feminist classroom, and their style of feminist teaching isn’t always appropriate to the subject, the level of the course, and the students’ starting points. Does that mean that the class is inherently not feminist? That didn’t seem quite right, and knowing so little about feminist pedagogy myself, I couldn’t quite articulate how you could have both a feminist classroom and yet also employ traditional means of teaching. What you are saying here is a great help.
Also, your dad’s parenting style hits too close to home. It passes down through generations and makes you sick to see it happen.
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
@Paperkingdoms – I’m willing to grant that my first two bullets are probably the most likely feminist pedagogical practices for the math classroom, and the others might not fit. I was definitely coming from my own disciplinary background as I threw that list together. So there may be others in math that I’m not aware of, or maybe the list for math is just two.
But your comment got me thinking: if math is the exception here (and I really do think that it is, though it does probably keep company with a few of the sciences, too, although lets remember that most universities have 100+ majors so at most we’re talking about 5-10 percent of all courses taught), then why does it come up so often in discussions like this one as the evidence that feminist pedagogical practice (or reflective writing or a list of other things that seem silly when thought of in the context of math) isn’t important or is too specific to be broadly applied or should just stay in the ghetto of women’s studies? I’m not saying that’s what you were doing in your comment – I do not think that you were – but I see this happen *all the time* and I seriously do not get it.
Clio – What sorts of things are you reading in your feminist pedagogy group? Don’t let the teachers of writing set the whole agenda
I’m glad this post helped you to think about your responses in the group. I have to say, for me, there are moments when I do use the technique of rearranging the room and, as you put it, not being a presence in the classroom, but I tend to do that a) to shake them up and b) with very specific goals in mind. In other words, it’s a performance, and when the performance is done, I put my sheriff hat back on. See, I think this is my problem with the idea that nobody in charge = feminism: I think that is incredibly limiting and ultimately bad pedagogy if that’s your only technique. Sometimes, students need limits, and sometimes, they need to be pushed. I guess if all of one’s students were super motivated or something, but I feel like that’s the holy grail of teaching and not real life.
I don’t know about math, but all of your points can and often do apply in biology. Issues in sex/gender and race have come up, oh, at least a dozen times this semester in the biology course that I am teaching, in part because we are reading some older literature, and I do make a point of addressing them. I have not consciously thought about having a feminist pedagogy, but I’m sure my approach is very different from my non-feminist colleagues (who ignore all mentions of race and gender or dismiss them with jokes).
I had to look up reflective writing – this seems very similar to best practices in science of questioning our own objectivity and biases, and resisting having a favorite hypothesis.
Word, Crazy. Fantastic followup.
I really like Dr. Crazy’s discussion of feminist pedagogy here. Clio Bluestocking’s comments about her feminist pedagogy group raises an interesting point: is it really feminist to deny our own authority in the classroom? I don’t think so. As paperkingdoms suggests, it’s feminist for women to claim our authority as experts in our fields, and that’s a good lesson for our students to learn. (I also think it’s kind of fake–after all, only one person in the room gets to judge the work of the students and assign the grades.)
Interestingly, I never took a single women’s studies course at my women’s college, and feminist women were still rare on the faculty there. I was never interested in the confessional mode of pedagogy, either as a student or as a teacher. (It helps that I teach comparatively distant history, rather than recent U.S. history.)
Dr. Crazy:
My background is not in WS, so I read your post with particular interest. I especially liked your term “lived feminism” as it reflects the many ways that feminist values and ideals can be incorporated in areas in addition to the discipline of WS.
Your point about addressing issues related to sex/gender is an excellent example of this. As an educator in a graduate health professions program, I try to address issues related to disability issues for women.
I will think of the concept of “lived feminism” as I look for additional ways to address these issues with future health professionals.
Thank you for your thought-provoking post!
Dr. Crazy, I didn’t want to highjack the comments, so I moved my extralong response to my blog.
For the books, we read a chapter from Jyl Lynn Felman’s Never a Dull Moment this last time and will read Chapter 1 of Paulo Friere’s Pedagogy of the Oppressed next time. I’m way outside of any authoritative knowlege on this, so any further suggestions (chapters are articles preferred) are more than welcome!
I was sent a link to this post by a friend of mine. I’m glad he did. I read the post while on my way to class, women’s studies class.
I’m currently enrolled in a Women’s Studies Major. I’m a male, and gendered as a (young) man.
Your post is interesting for what it suggests, specifically the structure of a feminist classroom. That the structure of our learning environment influences our intellectual development, is a consideration few students make. Perhaps students should be aware of their preferences for learning environments, in addition to their learning styles.
Thanks for posting this.
I do think that classes where feminist content never comes up *are* the exception, rather than the rule.
I was just sort of excited to see ways to think of my classrooms as feminist — ways to even get the door open, because I’ve been somewhat at a loss. So it’s interesting food for thought. (Upon a little more pondering, there *are* models of teaching math that fit more with some of the conceptions of feminist classrooms, but they seem to require idealized students to get the ball rolling.)
I mentioned this briefly on clio bluestocking’s blog, but I do teach a math class (stats) and all of those points you’ve made come up. Math IS gendered, perhaps not as much as physics (the classes in which I encountered my first early acts of overt gender discrimination), but there are perceptions of appropriate male and female behavior within a math classroom which can serve to keep people of both genders down.
For example, math phobia is much more prevalent among my female students. But when they do have it women are also generally, but not always, more willing to address that phobia head on rather than displacing anger at the (female) professor. That’s in addition to the ideas of statistical discrimination, biases, and so on within the material itself that can be used as tools to document and study issues of inequality.
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